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An Adult Conversation About Guns

An Adult Conversation About Guns

Hello, everyone.

The above title says it all. This is exactly what we are going to have – an ADULT conversation.

There was yet another shooting today (7/20/12), this time in Aurora, Colorado. Here is part of an article from Crooks & Liars which discusses gun violence.

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July 20, 2012 05:00 PM

An Adult Conversation About Guns

By Darcy Burner

Earlier today, a gunman walked into a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, where people were watching the midnight showing of the new Batman movie. He fired gas canisters into the crowd, and then opened fire. At least 12 people are dead and 59 people are injured. My heart and prayers go out to all of them.

On the day Gabby Giffords was shot, I was picking up my son Henry from a lesson when I got the text message saying there had been a shooting. I’d campaigned with Gabby in 2006. Henry didn’t understand why I’d stopped getting into the car and started crying.

Walking back from a haircut the other day, I passed Café Racer, where on May 30th a gunman walked in and killed four people.

It’s time we had an adult conversation in this country about guns.

On January 17, 1989, a gunman in Stockton, California walked onto a playground and opened fire, killing 5 children and injuring 30 more.

On July 1, 1993, a gunman in San Francisco walked into a law office and opened fire, killing 8 and injuring 6.

On April 20, 1999, two gunmen in Columbine, Colorado walked into their high school and opened fire, killing 13 people and injuring 21 others.

On January 16, 2002, a gunman in Virginia walked into a law school and opened fire, killing 3 and injuring 3.

On July 8, 2003, a gunman in Mississippi walked into a factory and opened fire, killing 6 and injuring 8.

On March 21, 2005, a gunman in Minnesota walked into a high school and opened fire, killing 7 and injuring 5.

On November 20, 2005, a gunman in Tacoma walked into the mall and opened fire, injuring 6.

On March 25, 2006, a gunman in Seattle walked into a party and opened fire, killing 6 and injuring 2.

On February 12, 2007, a gunman in Utah walked into a mall and opened fire, killing 5 and injuring 4.

On April 16, 2007, a gunman in Virginia walked onto the Virginia Tech campus and opened fire, killing 32 people and wounding 17 others.

On December 5, 2007, a gunman in Nebraska walked into a mall and opened fire, killing 8 and injuring 4.

On December 9, 2007, a gunman in Colorado Springs walked onto a church parking lot and opened fire, killing 2 and wounding 3.

On February 7, 2008, a gunman in Missouri walked into a city council meeting and opened fire, killing 5 and wounding 2.

On February 14, 2008, a gunman in Illinois walked onto a college campus and opened fire, killing 5 and injuring 17.

On June 25, 2008, a gunman in Kentucky walked into a factory and opened fire, killing 5 and injuring 1.

On January 24, 2009, a gunman in Portland walked up to a nightclub and opened fire, killing 2 and injuring 7.

On March 29, 2009, a gunman in North Carolina walked into a retirement home and opened fire, killing 8 and injuring 2.

On August 4, 2009, a gunman in a suburb of Pittsburgh walked into a fitness club and opened fire, killing 3 and injuring 9.

On November 5, 2009, a gunman at Fort Hood in Texas walked into a medical center and opened fire, killing 13 and injuring 29.

On November 29, 2009, a gunman in Lakewood, Washington walked into a coffee shop and killed 4 police officers.

On January 7, 2010, a gunman in St Louis walked into a power plant and opened fire, killing 3 and injuring 6.

On January 12, 2010, a gunman in Georgia walked into a truck rental place and opened fire, killing 3 and injuring 2.

On February 12, 2010, a gunwoman in Alabama stood up in a college faculty meeting and opened fire, killing 3 and injuring 3.

On August 3, 2010, a gunman in Connecticut walked into a warehouse and opened fire, killing 8 and injuring 2.

On August 7, 2011, a gunman in Ohio broke into his girlfriend’s house and opened fire, killing 7 and injuring 1.

On September 6, 2011, a gunman in Nevada walked into a pancake restaurant and opened fire, killing 4 and injuring 7.

On October 5, 2011, a gunman in Cupertino, California walked into a quarry where people were working and opened fire, killing 3 and injuring 7.

Sadly, I could go on.

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I think that this is enough.

The other day, I posted a diary titled “Why Are Humans Violent?” In that essay, I said that, from all that I have read in my lifetime, I would say that the seed to all known violence in world history, from the prehistorical to the present day, lies in the three Abrahamic religions, namely, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

To be honest, I truly am not sure if this statement about Islam is true, valid, or fair, so probably I should remove Islam from this statement. But there is no doubt that it is true about Judaism and Christianity. If one reads the Pentateuch, or as the Evangelicals love to call them, the “Five Books of Moses,” once the “children of Israel” have left Egypt and crossed the Red Sea, their history is killing after killing after killing. And it gets worse in the historical books. I said in the “Violent” diary that when I was a boy, I heard “missionaries” say that some books in the Old Testament were not translated into other languages because of all the bloodletting and other violence contained in these books. Even today, we see the inherent violence of the Jewish nation in the unprovoked attack on the American ship Liberty in June, 1967, and the genocide committed against the Palestinian people.

And it isn’t any better in Christianity, the religion founded by the supposed “Prince of Peace.” In the “Violent” diary, I listed just a few of the blessings that Jesus Christ and his church have bestowed upon us – the cruelty and heartlessness of the Crusades, the maniacal mayhem of the various Inquisitions, especially the Spanish Inquisition, the way that the established Church tried to accomplish the infanticide of the nascent Protestant Reformation, the cruelty of Oliver Cromwell in England and the Puritans in colonial America, the Salem Witch Trials in colonial Massachusetts, the French massacre of the Hugenots, the Conquistadores’ rape of South America, Columbus’ slavery to slavery, the mayhem committed in Ireland between the Catholics and Protestants, the War Between the States when people battled over the right to traffic in human flesh, the brutality in this country of the Evangelicals and Fundamentalists towards anything and anyone who was NOT Evangelical or Fundamentalist, the spectacle of “Christians” picketing at funerals, etc., and so on, ad nauseum. I can give personal testimony to the treatment that Evangelicals and Fundamentalists give to those who disagree with them, because I have personally experienced much cruelty and sheer meanness from these thugs and goons, as have too many of the people I love.

And I also addressed the jewels from the “Prince of Peace.” Here they are once again.

Matt 10:37 “Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; (NIV)

Matt 15:4 For God said, `Honor your father and mother’ and `Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’ (NIV)

Matt 15:24-26 24 But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 25 Then she came and worshiped Him, saying, “Lord, help me!” 26 But He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the little dogs.”  NKJV

Matt 19:29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. (NIV)

Matt 23:9 And do not call anyone on earth `father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. (NIV)

Matt 8:21-22 21 Then another of his disciples said to him, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father. 22 But Jesus said to him, “Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.

Luke 9:59-60 59 He said to another man, “Follow me.” But the man replied, “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.” 60 Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God.” (NIV)

Luke 14:26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters — yes, even his own life — he cannot be my disciple. (NIV)

Christians claim that Isaiah 9:6 is a prophecy about Jesus due in part to his being the “Prince of Peace”. But is he? Here are a couple more of his Jewels, straight from his lips:

Matt 10:34-38 — 34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. 35 For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; 36 and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’ 37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. — NKJV

The heading for this block of text in PC Study Bible is “Christ Brings Division.”

Luke 12:51-53 51 Do you suppose that I came to give peace on earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division. 52 For from now on five in one house will be divided: three against two, and two against three. 53 Father will be divided against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.”   NKJV

The heading for THIS block of text in PC Study Bible is also “Christ Brings Division.”

Matt 10:14-15

14 And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet. 15 Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city! NKJV

Now THAT is a nice attitude to have towards a town that has no interest in your message!

Luke 12:49

Luke 12:49 “I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! (NIV)

This quote raises tons of questions, but two stand out. First, given that Jesus spoke these words and that, according to Jesus himself in another place, he spoke out of the abundance of his heart, how exactly does this statement qualify Jesus to be seen as the “Prince of Peace” of Isaiah 9:6? Second, given that Jesus spoke these words, how is this verse justified in the light of Jesus’ own words in John 10:10 that he came to bring “life, and life more abundantly?”

Luke 19:26-27

Luke 19:15-27 15 “He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.

22 “His master replied, `I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow?

23 Why then didn’t you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?’

24 “Then he said to those standing by, `Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.’

25 “`Sir,’ they said, `he already has ten!’

26 “He replied, `I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away.

27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them– bring them here and kill them in front of me.'” (NIV)

This parable is referred to as “The Parable of the Ten Servants,” but in reality it is a variation on the Parable of the Talents, and it is unique to Luke. At the start of the parable, he leaves the area where he lives to be appointed king. His subjects did not want him to be named as their king. When he returns, and after consulting with the ten servants, he orders the murder of everyone who had opposed his rulership.

Evangelicals hold that this is a portrayal of “Jesus” at his second coming. But if true, how then does Jesus fulfill the prophecy of being the “Prince of Peace” as stated in Isaiah 9:6? That is some “Prince of Peace” to destroy everyone who won’t bow the knee to you, much like the Jesus who came to bring fire on the earth, and who is sorrowful because the fire has not been kindled as of yet.

Do these words sound like they came from the so-called “Prince of Peace”?  I don’t think so.

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I titled this diary “an adult conversation about guns.” Why adult? Many years ago, I read an article, either from a psychological journal or from a psychological website, that stated that guns were a phallic symbol, and that “men” worshiped their precious guns because in their minds, the guns made them virile men. In other words, they needed the guns to replace what was missing inside their pants. In the years since I read that, I have not seen even one item of proof that disproves that statement.

In my book, Conservatives / Evangelicals show their ignorance and stupidity by completely ignoring the first phrase in the Second Amendment. The right to bear arms is not unconditional, like these morons want to believe. The right to bear arms exists IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN A VALID AND WELL-REGULATED MILITIA! In other words, that right exists solely for the purpose of protecting the country, each individual state, and the people in said state. It does NOT guarantee the right of nutcases and whackjobs to buy guns for the purpose of taking out innocent human beings, regardless of what the Conservatives / Evangelicals want to think.

Not surprisingly, the voices in support for the innocent victims of the Colorado massacre from the Republicans and Evangelicals have been deafening in their silence. But then, those poor victims are no longer inside the womb! So why should the Evangelicals give a tinker’s damn about what happened to them?

I have had my gut filled beyond the brim with the sanctimonious shit that the Evangelicals, their imbecilic “savior,” and their political wing have been spewing. I am like Peter Finch’s character in the film “Network:” “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore.”

There is one thing that those of us who do not need a phallic symbol to prove our manhood can do. On the Piers Morgan program last night, he mentioned a petition that the Brady Campaign to control firearms had on its website. As soon as I saw the clip from the Piers Morgan program, I went to the Brady site and signed the petition. Here is the URL:

In conclusion, I stand by every word I wrote in the “Violence” diary. I also stand by every word I wrote in THIS diary. I firmly believe that until we remove the malignant cancer of Jesus Christ and the brainless behavior of his most vocal followers, there will be more Auroras – and more proof for my statement that the root for most, if not all, of the violence in this world lies at the feet of Judaism and Christianity. And we will never know REAL peace in this poor old world until the “Prince of Peace” is totally eradicated.

Try to have a good day, in spite of all of the mayhem he has inspired.




July 21, 2012 - Posted by | Miscellaneous, Politics, Religion

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